Theft. Affairs. A debilitating illness. A whole other family hidden somewhere else. Some secrets are way too big to tell. Others are way too big to keep. No matter what your secret is, take some comfort in knowing we all have them. And sometimes the best thing you can do is set them free. Today’s episode of Easy Listening is all about secrets – how they start and why we keep them. And if you listen closely, you’ll probably hear us share some of our own. Gina Grad and Teresa Strasser welcome you to the show.

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This isn’t the first time we have discussed an episode of This American Life on the show.  It is also not the last time we talk about an episode of TAL on the show.  It is just that good!  Our featured episode this week isn’t hosted by pod god Ira Glass.  The guest host is former TAL producer Susan Burton.  Secrets are the topic, and it’s a fantastic discussion. Just don’t keep it a secret! The episode link is below.  Click to listen.

This American Life: 732: Secrets on Apple Podcasts

Guest host Susan Burton is an author and a former producer for This American Life.
You can find her and her books on her website Susan Burton
She is also on Twitter @burtonsusan


Hey, If you’re having a tough time right with your mental health. Boy, do we get it. We hear you and we’re here for you, and we definitely are not shy about telling you, both of us believe in therapy. It really does help with all of life’s stressors, big and small. 
Maybe you’re not feeling motivated right now and would like some tools to help achieve some goals. Or maybe you’re feeling insecure in your relationships or at work. Or maybe there’s just a level of overwhelm and stress and you all you need is a little hand to lift you up and out of that. 
And that’s how we see therapy. A boost. A connection. An ear, an open heart, a guide, a coach, whatever you need. Because we all deserve to be happy, and a little support goes a long way. And now you don’t have to worry about finding an in-person therapist near you to help.
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Mike Lang
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Brian Adams
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He’s a realtor, helping people buy and sell homes in the Greater Boston area, but can also refer people to great realtors anywhere across the country. He also has a YouTube channel with his 3 year-old daughter. Just search “Brian Adams Real Estate”.  

Myndi Brogden – Horse Play
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Myndi is a horse trainer out of Rim Country, AZ.  She teaches riding lessons for kids and adults, and corrects problem horses.

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Outro: Wild Horses – Rolling Stones

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